Showing posts with label Zichydorf. Show all posts
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27 December 2022

Jakob and Melchior: Their Descendants

The previous blog post followed Jakob and Melchior Stumpf from Gakowa to Grabatz. This post looks at their sons, grandsons, and great-grandsons tracking where the families went after leaving Grabatz.

Villages Full of Stumpfs

There are several villages in the Banat that have large numbers of Stumpf families.  Figuring out how they all fit together, if they fit together, and where they came from might help me figure out how my ancestor Johann (born about 1838) connects to the rest of them.

Jakob’s Descendants

Jakob lived in Grabatz from at least 1772 until he died in 1810.

Jakob's sons' families went to Zichydorf and Stefansfeld.

Jakob's son Adam moved to Zichydorf between 1789 and 1792, before his father’s death. Adam's son, Johann Peter, also stayed in Zichydorf.

Johann Michael is the next surviving son of Jakob. He moves to Stefansfeld between 1819 and 1821. The family stays in Stefansfeld with a few grandsons moving to Sartscha.

Jakob’s last (surviving to adulthood) son, Jakob, married in Grabatz, spent a few years in Stefansfeld, moved to Zichydorf for a few years, but moved back to Stefansfeld to stay. One of his grandsons moved on to Setschan.

Melchior’s Descendants

Melchior lived in Grabatz from at least 1770 until he died in 1818.  His widow died in Lazarfeld nine years later on the same date.  

Only one son is known to survive to adulthood: Jakob (*1770). There are three sons whose fate is unknown. Lorenz (*1766), Johann Adam (*1775), and Johann Adam (*1780). In some family books, Johann Adam (*1780) was assigned as a groom of Elisabeth Unterreiner before she married a son of Jakob. No marriage record was found in the Grabatz church book, so I'm assuming this was a compilation error.

Melchior's grandsons went to Kathreinfeld and Klek.

The one surviving son, Jakob (*1770) who died in 1806 at 36 years old, had two sons: Peter and Jakob. Peter went to Kathreinfeld and Jakob went to Klek. This is also captured in the 1828 Census, which recorded landowners.  Peter's sons stayed in Kathreinfeld.  Some of Jakob's sons stayed in Klek and two moved to Deutsch Etschka with one of them dying in Sigmundfeld.

Please enjoy this graphic

To better visualize the movement of the Stumpf family, I created this graphic.  

Note: Dates of moves are approximate and based on dates of known events. Only males known to have families are shown, since the Stumpf surname was the priority of this exercise. In cases where the year of death is unknown, there are alternating colored and uncolored boxes with a question mark in the final box.  In cases where the year of death is known, the colored bar ends with a cross in the death year column.


 




Update 20 Mar 2023: Corrected spelling of Stefansfeld.