This post and the next post are lists of Stumpf boys and men who have brick walls.
*NO DATA EXCEPT BIRTH*
In compiling the early generations of descendants of the brothers Jakob and Melchior Stumpf in the Banat, I came across several children who had a birth/baptism entry, but no other information. In my database, I marked them with a death location of *NO DATA EXCEPT BIRTH* so I could find them easily with a search. I then added the brick wall image with a question mark as their profile picture, so I could identify them at a glance in their families.
I was hoping as I dug in deeper, I would be able to close out some of these brick walls. These are the names from the first few generations that I so far cannot connect with their fates, although I do have a guess on one of them. These are only from the first few generations. There are lots of people in the later generations I also don't know their fates, however, I felt the earlier generations were foundational to building the tree of this Stumpf family. I’m left wondering if these unaccounted for Stumpf boys died young or grew to adulthood and moved away to a village whose records I haven't accessed or joined the military.
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| Profile picture for boy whose fate is unknown. Image created by author from clipart. |
List of Missing Boys
Here is a list of the boys that are brick walls coming forward in time, grouped by families. (To see the family groups for Jakob and Melchior, see Jakob and Melchior: What's Known from the Banat Side.)
Son of Jakob and earlier wife, either Katharina or Anna.
Martin was born about 1767. No baptism entry found and I suspect the name comes from the Settler’s list where he is listed with sister Margaretha and brother Johann Adam. Margaretha was born in Dörlesberg before they immigrated. Johann Adam was baptized in 1764 in Kolut with a birth noted as Gakowa.
- Did Martin die in Gakowa and that was not recorded, or maybe on the move to Grabatz?
- Did he exists at all?
Sons of Jakob’s son Johann Michael and wife Magdalena Krämer
Josef born 21 Jan 1806 in Grabatz
Jakob born 12 Mar 1824 in Stefansfeld
Son of Jakob’s son Jakob and wife Elisabeth Unterreiner
Jakob born 10 Dec 1803 in Stefansfeld
Sons of Melchior and Maria Anna
Lorenz born June 1766 in Gakowa and baptized in Kolut.
- Did he die in Gakowa and it wasn’t recorded, or maybe on the move to Grabatz?
Johann Adam was born 25 May 1775 in Grabatz
(Another) Johann Adam was born 15 Feb 1780 in Grabatz
Son of Melchior’s son Jakob and Katharina Bartl
Michael born 26 Jul 1803 in Grabatz
Son of Melchior’s grandson Peter and Anna Maria Neurohr
Friedrich born 28 May 1829 in Kathreinfeld
- There are some Franz Stumpfs who are not connected to their birth families who I'll list in the next post, but this one seems to be not the right age, too young for one and too old for the other to be either of them. Also, the nickname for Friedrich is probably Fritz and not Franz.
Son of Melchior’s great-grandson (and Peter’s son) Johann [Michael] and Anna Maria Putz
Johann born 15 Jul 1841 in Kathreinfeld.
- This actually might be my 3x-great-grandfather who married Katharina Hoffmann
- With a birth of 1841, Johann would definitely be affected by the gap in records of Kathreinfeld.